and nato forces ran themselves through surrogates and other countries so that we don't have to pack a a 1.4 million of our citizens in engagements again and again so we don't have to do that, there's nothing from the right wing saying you know what? i have problems with the domestic policies of this president or whatever but i'm not going to open up the door where i'm going to call him a muslim. i'm not going to do that and make it both a pejorative and or accusatory. >> don't you think this is online with the inherent lack of disrespect they seem to have for this president? >> lack of respect. >> lack of respect. disrespect or lack of respect. >> hal: i think there's two reasons why they have a lack of respect. one is they can't have respect for him and then get re-elected later in their mind. >> it is worse now than it's ever been with any other democratic president. >> hal: i agree. there is something knee-jerk and guttural about it. if you look at their -- their vilification of bill clinton, we forget because the economy -- we didn't go through a major snap during that time like w